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Get Politics AlertsEmailComments57 New York Times columnist David Brooks debated Republican Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) at an American Enterprise Institute forum Thursday and, amid a large degree of back-patting, the writer came to the conclusion that the GOP, in its current legislative form, is exhibiting a sort of obstinate "rigidity" that is damaging to the political process.
Here's what Brooks had to say about the current debate over deficit control by cutting taxes and raising spending (transcript via ThinkProgress):
BROOKS: And my problem with the Republican Party right now, including Paul, is that if you offered them 80-20, they say no. If you offered them 90-10, they'd say no. If you offered them 99-1 they'd say no. And that's because we've substituted governance for brokerism, for rigidity that Ronald Regan didn't have.And to me, this rigidity comes from this polarizing world view that they're a bunch of socialists over there. You know, again, I've spent a lot of time with the president. I've spent a lot of time with the people around him. They're liberals! ... But they're not idiots. And they're not Europeans, and they don't want to be a European welfare state. ... It's American liberalism, and it's not inflexible.
Brooks also explained his vision of the Democrats' ideology. "They have much greater faith in planning than I do, and the health care plan that came out of that, it reflected their faith in planning that bunch of smart guys sitting around in Washington can plan the health care system in this country," Brooks explained. "They want to have -- if you read what they've written for the past 20 years -- a more actively planned society which does a little more redistribution."
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER dragonmaster 0 minute ago (6:48 AM) 161 Fans The current GOP is self destructing- they no longer have the demographics to play this game- and the solutions they offer for the nations mounting problems amount to nothing but a Robin Hood in opposite- a continued raiding from the poor and middle class to supply 'socialism' for the corporations, wealthy and well connected. dragonmaster: The current GOP is self destructing- they no longer have http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/dragonmaster/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69453848.html Permalink | Share it
HUFFPOST SUPER USER Wisdomatic 4 minutes ago (6:43 AM) 43 Fans Follow The GOP can't lead, they won't follow, so the only thing Republicans are capable of doing is obstructing the governing process. Wisdomatic: The GOP can't lead, they won't follow, so the only http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Wisdomatic/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69453749.html Permalink | Share it
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR SSF 12 minutes ago (6:36 AM) 423 Fans Follow It seems that Conservative thinkers like David Brooks are starting to see the light. Republicans may be fired up over recent electoral victories and itching for an ideological fight, but any obstructionism that prolongs hardship for the American people is only going to cost them in the long run; especially with younger voters who are having the hardest time finding jobs! SSF: It seems that Conservative thinkers like David Brooks are starting http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/SSF/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69453567.html Permalink | Share it Wildeye 17 minutes ago (6:30 AM) 17 Fans Here's your wealth redistribution: http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts-about-wealth-and-inequality-in-america-2010-4?slop=1#slideshow-start Wildeye: Here's your wealth redistribution: http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts-about-wealth-and-inequality-in-america-2010-4?slop=1#slideshow-start http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Wildeye/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69453441.html Permalink | Share it
HUFFPOST SUPER USER Linda Williams 25 minutes ago (6:23 AM) 292 Fans Follow The GOP obstructionism is nothing more than near sighted, obstinate righteousness. There is nothing that can really be discussed regarding its tactics. Linda_Williams: The GOP obstructionism is nothing more than near sighted, obstinate http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Linda_Williams/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69453265.html Permalink | Share it
HUFFPOST SUPER USER AnotherTry 30 minutes ago (6:18 AM) 277 Fans Follow So much Europe bashing! Europe is a wonderful place with great infrastructure, high speed trains, better internet access, small gap between rich and poor. America could learn a lot from Europe. AnotherTry: So much Europe bashing! Europe is a wonderful place with http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/AnotherTry/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69453137.html Permalink | Share it cabo 32 minutes ago (6:15 AM) 17 Fans OMG! This too sensible for a repunigcan. He will probably regret that he spoke up for liberals. cabo: OMG! This too sensible for a repunigcan. He will probably http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/cabo/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69453069.html Permalink | Share it coloradodreaming 37 minutes ago (6:10 AM) 263 Fans Everyday I await the announcement coming from the Chamber of Commerce that the corps will return jobs to the US as soon as they get their tax cut extended for the 2%. Of course it will help to get the jobs back to the US from India if the work force promises to work for $30 a week and for no benefits. Of course it will also help if all Americans promise to never sign a union contract. If America will promise to never ask for a raise and vote out the new minimum wage requirement and go back to $5 plus a day it would also help bring them jobs back. coloradodreaming: Everyday I await the announcement coming from the Chamber of http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/coloradodreaming/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452969.html Permalink | Share it 1differentdrummer 46 minutes ago (6:02 AM) 338 Fans Actually, I think he should have said the rigid Rs show the results of unwise toilet training when they were children. But still, this is the most sense I've ever seen from him. 1differentdrummer: Actually, I think he should have said the rigid Rs http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/1differentdrummer/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452793.html Permalink | Share it
HUFFPOST SUPER USER Carole Huber 54 minutes ago (5:53 AM) 41 Fans "They want to have -- if you read what they've written for the past 20 years -- a more actively planned society which does a little more redistribution.". Something wrong with that? Carole_Huber: "They want to have -- if you read what they've http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Carole_Huber/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452629.html Permalink | Share it
Imzadi 42 minutes ago (6:05 AM) 1175 Fans Only if you're an R... Imzadi: Only if you're an R... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Imzadi/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452860.html Permalink | Share it darthmaul 25 minutes ago (6:22 AM) 114 Fans Redistribution? Heavens no! They want greater social stratification. There would be the incredibly wealthy (white republicans) a small middle lower class, and then everybody else.To the Republicans a utopia or heaven on this earth would be modeled on DIckens' London. Poor children could get an "honest job" at age 12. There would be debtors prisons. And of course there would be only churches to spread "Christian Values." darthmaul: Redistribution? Heavens no! They want greater social stratification. There would http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/darthmaul/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69453252.html Permalink | Share it DeputyDawg1 1 hour ago (5:22 AM) 2 Fans The first time I can agree with Mr. Brooks. The GOP does have a "show no mercy" mentality that was displayed once again this week with the vote on unemployment benefits, and the child lunch program. It dosen't what the subject is the GOPs disciplined bottom to top daily talking points recitals will turn it into a life or death struggle against the DEMs. You can listen to several interviews and if they are asked a simple yes or no question about any subject the reply will be we stand for less government control of peoples lives, lower taxes, less regulation. When does it ever end? Certainly not with election or even reelection, it's always the same level of caustic drivel. DeputyDawg1: The first time I can agree with Mr. Brooks. The http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/DeputyDawg1/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452052.html Permalink | Share it
jmdziuban1 43 minutes ago (6:04 AM) 348 Fans It doesn't end, it is all they have. Their economic program has failed miserably, yet they must continue to protect their wealthy backers. Their religious intolerance is un-Constitutional, so they must put it in different terms. "Yes, America guarantees religious freedom, but some religions are just simply un-American, and should not be allowed. This is un-Constitutional, but....we must make allowances".When you start making such "allowances", you will soon find yourself in deep doodoo. The same goes for the Patriot act. They cannot come out and openly proclaim they wish to establish a Corporate Christian Theocracy, wish I do believe they would do given the chance. This gorces thenm to use such methods as you describe. They cannot sell what they truly believe, so they repacksge it as something different, always ensuring they stay on message, stick to the talking points, any variance or free lancing may result a slip which reveals their true untentions. This forces them to go into dnial of it and other damage control stratagems, usually by creating a diversionary story (headless bodies in the desert, I never said that, I did but it wasn't my fault, look! a flying turtle!). jmdziuban1: It doesn't end, it is all they have. Their economic http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/jmdziuban1/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452844.html Permalink | Share it
HUFFPOST SUPER USER GunnyJ 29 minutes ago (6:18 AM) 161 Fans Follow Correct! They are robots with no thought process of their own. Imagine working hard their entire life in the hopes of being a voice to the community, the state, etc. only to get to Washington to be told to play ball or feel the wrath?! Basically the republicans are not even listening to their own voters who conveniently are never talked to by the MSM. Maybe Brooks will start something here... GunnyJ: Correct! They are robots with no thought process of their http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/GunnyJ/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69453142.html Permalink | Share it
HUFFPOST SUPER USER Bluepagan 1 hour ago (5:19 AM) 152 Fans I don't always agree with Brooks, but I have a great deal of respect for him. He is intelligent and articulate and I will listen to him. This is how ideas get shared and problems solved, but you have to have civil, intelligent discourse from both sides not just shouting matches and sound bites. There are a whole lot of people in this country with belligerent chips on their shoulders and unfortunately many of them are our elected representatives. Bluepagan: I don't always agree with Brooks, but I have a http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Bluepagan/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452015.html Permalink | Share it HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR MaryK2924 1 hour ago (5:39 AM) 55 Fans Agreed. His party needs more David Brooks and less Bachmann, Palin, Boehner and McConnell. MaryK2924: Agreed. His party needs more David Brooks and less Bachmann, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/MaryK2924/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452356.html Permalink | Share it ugetit 48 minutes ago (6:00 AM) 1 Fans Agree! ugetit: Agree! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/ugetit/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452755.html Permalink | Share it
Imzadi 41 minutes ago (6:06 AM) 1175 Fans 100% Agree!! Imzadi: 100% Agree!! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Imzadi/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452889.html Permalink | Share it
jmdziuban1 2 hours ago (5:16 AM) 348 Fans Why i hate republicans? Because they lie, because they are averse to truth and to fact, because they lie, because when they use facts, they are very selective(cherry-pick), and more often than not misconstrue their meaning. This brings us back to: because they lie. Because they use religion for political purposes, a while proclaiming that religion is a personal experience, they lie about their religion. Because they lie about giving a damn for Americans. Because republicans care only about helping the wealthy retain. and increase. their personal wealth, while the middle class disappears. Because republicans give Chicken Crap about anybody who is not wealthy, who is not in a position to help them retain power. Because republicans say they care about all Americans, but that is another lie. Did I mention I hate republicans because they lie? There are many more reasons, but they really all boil down to this: Because republicans are dishonest at heart, it is their only effective program or strategy. jmdziuban1: Why i hate republicans? Because they lie, because they are http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/jmdziuban1/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69451955.html Permalink | Share it
HUFFPOST SUPER USER joceeco 33 minutes ago (6:14 AM) 42 Fans We have so much in common, regarding our feelings about republicans and what/who they are. I dislike republicans because they lie about any and everything all ofthe time!!! joceeco: We have so much in common, regarding our feelings about http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/joceeco/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69453045.html Permalink | Share it
bridgeman 2 hours ago (4:58 AM) 1307 Fans Sadly...the only people listening to David Brooks these days are Dems.He is the Charlie Crist of "conservative" journalists bridgeman: Sadly...the only people listening to David Brooks these days are http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/bridgeman/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69451648.html Permalink | Share it
WiltonDiary 1 hour ago (5:32 AM) 1186 Fans Follow That is what you want to believe! WiltonDiary: That is what you want to believe! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/WiltonDiary/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452221.html Permalink | Share it Romack 2 hours ago (4:51 AM) 0 Fans Funny, Funny, Funny. If the Democrats plan is so good, Why are cost going up and benefits going down? Why is it getting harder to find a job? Why am I not getting a cost of living raise in Social Security?The more things Democrats change the worse things get. Government gets bigger and the little guy gets trampppppled. Have some more "Hope & Change" Koolaide that we can't afford. Romack: Funny, Funny, Funny. If the Democrats plan is so good, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Romack/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69451524.html Permalink | Share it
Fi 2 hours ago (5:04 AM) 283 Fans All thanks to the GWB recession Fi: All thanks to the GWB recession http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Fi/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69451745.html Permalink | Share it
taddles 2 hours ago (5:14 AM) 518 Fans Health care reform has not been enacted yet, it won't be until 2014. Your health care costs are going up because Insurance companies want to increase your premiums as much as they can before HCR goes into effect.It is not harder to find a job, job growth has increased at the fastest rate in any recession since the great depression. The problem is that the number of jobs that were lost is the highest since the great depression and will take time to replace.
You're not getting a cost of living increase because the Bush administration tanked the economy and the Consumer Price Index dropped which the COLA is based on.
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/cola/latestCOLA.html taddles: Health care reform has not been enacted yet, it won't http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/taddles/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69451914.html Permalink | Share it
jmdziuban1 1 hour ago (5:32 AM) 348 Fans Doesn't it get tiring, having to constantly correct their misrepresentations, again and again and again. Meanwhile, after having seen your reply, Romack is now busy re-posting the same erroneous charges on another thread.They know they cannot win without lies, misrepresentation, and base dishonesty. That and being holier than everybody else, a strange pairing. jmdziuban1: Doesn't it get tiring, having to constantly correct their misrepresentations, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/jmdziuban1/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452220.html Permalink | Share it knapstellar 2 hours ago (5:18 AM) 1 Fans No raise for Social Security? The only reason you have Social Security is because of the Democrats! And if the Republicans get their way you no longer will. knapstellar: No raise for Social Security? The only reason you have http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/knapstellar/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69451983.html Permalink | Share it
jmdziuban1 1 hour ago (5:34 AM) 348 Fans But, but, but....classic screw up on his part. Make it a first, of hopefully many. jmdziuban1: But, but, but....classic screw up on his part. Make it http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/jmdziuban1/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452260.html Permalink | Share it
jmdziuban1 1 hour ago (5:24 AM) 348 Fans If these things are happening to you, I suggest calling your insurer and registering a complaint. Most provisions of HCR have yet to kick in, this will occur over the next several years.Why are costs increasing and benefits decraesing? Because as people lose work, they are no longer covered. This decreases the number of people in the pool, this increases costs and decreases profits, your insurer is simply trying to improve his bottom line, at your expense.
Don't blame HCR, blame your private insurer. jmdziuban1: If these things are happening to you, I suggest calling http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/jmdziuban1/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452087.html Permalink | Share it
WiltonDiary 1 hour ago (5:34 AM) 1186 Fans Follow 15,000,000 people are out of work and can't pay their insurance premiums. So, now who do you think is getting stuck with the healthcare bills so the Health Care Executives and the industry can reap billion of dollars.Where have you been for the last ten years? WiltonDiary: 15,000,000 people are out of work and can't pay their http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/WiltonDiary/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452254.html Permalink | Share it
Imzadi 38 minutes ago (6:09 AM) 1175 Fans Yelling at kids to get off their lawn... Imzadi: Yelling at kids to get off their lawn... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Imzadi/david-brooks-republicans_n_791281_69452953.html Permalink | Share it Page: 1 2 Next › Last » (2 total) New comments on this entry — Click to refresh
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